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66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby robwalk45 » Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:59 am

anyone ever mess with the emergency flashers on a 66? I have a 66 converted to 12v. Here's the problem, turn signals work fine, emergency flasher knob flashes but the running lights don't. It looks like every thing is wired correctly. I am wondering if the flasher relay is bad.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby vdubjim » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:04 pm

id check the power out of the flasher to the lights.

If the turns work, and this is a car with a big black box, just dont worry about it, youll spend far too much $$ trying to fix it.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby derbug » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:23 pm

Yes,
It has the big black or sometimes blue box with 7 wires attached not counting the ground
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/inf ... /bug66.jpg
J1 is your relay in the above
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/inf ... 67_USA.jpg
above is the same box for a 67, which would be 12 volt....if you can find a cheap used
one, would be one way to test....the relays maybe don't care if you use 6 or 12 volt ??
The 66 appears to be a one year only 6volt with the big box(relay)

But as posted above, if your turn signals are working, you might have to live with
the non functional "safety flasher"
http://www.thesamba.com/vw/archives/inf ... hinset.jpg
the above is for 61-65. J1 was a simple 3 connection flasher for the turn signals
I am guessing the 66 was the first year for the safety flashers and the bigger relay box ??
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby vdubjim » Mon Nov 25, 2013 8:29 pm

66 could be the first year. i dont remember if 65 did or not.

Like i said, if turns work, might check your connections etc... otherwise be thankful the turns work :)
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby dabestigot » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:15 am

My '67 is the doing the same thing but my flasher knob does not light up. Everything else works fine. I'll be watching this for info as well. Is there no way to test the box or must you replace the box to see?
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby robwalk45 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 7:53 am

The smart thing is probably to leave it as is, however I like things to work like they were intended. So I will probably mess with it some more. Wolfsberg West has a box for about $60, not too bad if you say it fast.
I learned from Ron @ Bethany Imports, the light bulb in the emergency flasher switch must be good or they won't work. The bulb is a tiny little thing and hard to find, I did find some at Airhead parts on-line. Thanks for the info. will let you know if I get it to work.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby dabestigot » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:29 am

I saw that box on Wolfsburg West also for $59. Then I was on the Samba and saw a thread "66 emergency lights" in the beetle section. I thought it was you as it is covering exactly what we're talking about. Might keep an eye on that also.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby vdubjim » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:44 am

Thought you said above it flashed when pulled?
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby dabestigot » Tue Nov 26, 2013 8:55 am

Jim, I think he was answering me with the bulb statement because mine does not light up and his does, so he thinks mine might also be the bulb along with whatever other problem I might have with the flasher box.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby robwalk45 » Tue Nov 26, 2013 9:23 pm

My red switch does flash now that I replaced the bulb, it was dead as a hammer when I started. Didn't have a chance to work on it today, probably after the holiday.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby robwalk45 » Mon Dec 09, 2013 8:17 pm

I ordered the wolfsburg west relay. It arrived the other day and I installed it and it fixed the problem, turn and emergency signals work.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby derbug » Mon Dec 09, 2013 10:42 pm

That was a simple fix....just needed replaced....
the old one only lasted 47 years....guess U good
for another 47 ?
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby robwalk45 » Tue Dec 10, 2013 5:39 pm

If it lasts 47 more years, I won't be worried about it!
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby Bobs68VW » Tue Feb 11, 2014 9:48 pm

robwalk45 wrote:anyone ever mess with the emergency flashers on a 66? I have a 66 converted to 12v. Here's the problem, turn signals work fine, emergency flasher knob flashes but the running lights don't. It looks like every thing is wired correctly. I am wondering if the flasher relay is bad.


You can always do what I did for my Son's 68 (yes, I know, it's 12VDC), build your own electronic flasher unit using a wheatstone bridge from Radio shack, a couple of small 6vdc flasher units and a couple of diodes.

The one in my son's car has worked flawlessly for 15 years.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby vdubjim » Tue Feb 11, 2014 11:26 pm

lets see the wiring diagram?
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby Bobs68VW » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:35 pm

vdubjim wrote:lets see the wiring diagram?



Image

One thing you'd have to correct, is the fact that the original flasher unit in both 66s and 67/68s is that the lights in the Speedo are looking for a ground...When the key is on, the speedo lights have 6vdc or 12vdc applied.

As I used a VDO aftermarket speedo, I simply used a separate light for both the 4-way and turn signals.

When I mentioned some diodes, I was mixing up the single switch wiring for park and headlights with the turn signals. :oops:

By the by, if anyone has any old 6vdc or 12vdc black boxes, let me know...I'd like to trouble shoot a few and see if I can bring them back to life.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby vdubjim » Wed Feb 12, 2014 4:40 pm

I have 1 or 2 I think.
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Re: 66 beetle emergency flashers

Postby Bobs68VW » Wed Feb 12, 2014 10:43 pm

vdubjim wrote:I have 1 or 2 I think.


If they're broken, and you'd like to get rid of them, let me know!!!
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